Help, please

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   Ken and I have a bird visiting our feeder, and we need help with its identification.  It certainly has a grosbeak bill and is cracking safflower seeds.  Our photos are awful--I only hope they are good enough for someone to help us with the identification.  

Although my first thought was (juvenile) female evening grosbeak, it doesn't have a large white wing patch and we don't think it large enough.  I include a third photo to show size comparison with the house finches with which it is feeding.

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Helen Ostermiller
southern Medina County

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hostermiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Nestling Joined: 09 April 2009 Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote hostermiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Help, please Posted: 25 June 2012 at 9:20am
	Ken and I have a bird visiting our feeder, and we need help with its identification. It certainly has a grosbeak bill and is cracking safflower seeds. Our photos are awful--I only hope they are good enough for someone to help us with the identification. Although my first thought was (juvenile) female evening grosbeak, it doesn't have a large white wing patch and we don't think it large enough. I include a third photo to show size comparison with the house finches with which it is feeding. - Helen Ostermiller southern Medina County

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	Helen I do not see the images, can you repost the images or send to mail@rarebird.org Thanks Chuck

hostermiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Nestling Joined: 09 April 2009 Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote hostermiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 June 2012 at 8:32am
	I'm sorry the images didn't come through. You can see them at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6xb7e7n5e8rdqte/nEU927qrju My husband, Ken, posted them on the Ohio Birding facebook page where Ethan Kistler and Paul Hurtado identified the bird as a European Greenfinch! It came to our feeder a number of times yesterday, though we haven't yet seen it this morning. Helen Ostermiller